Like everything else, the trigger unit is of H-S design, for which patents are pending.It is user-adjustable down to 2 pounds. After countless rounds it still shoots sud moa groups.gun). Just one more consideration, the 260 Rem is a 1000yrd max cartridge. To give that some perspective, a .30-06 kicks with 22 foot-pounds of energy. Since this is not a gun review, let me just say that shooting the ProHunter Lightweight was a pleasant experience. This 1-inch scope with non-magnifying reticle weighs just 11.5 ounces — unbelievably light for a Euro scope — and the Leupold rings weigh 3 ounces. H-S developed the latter for the U.S. Army’s M24 sniper rifle, and then incorporated that feature into their consumer stocks. And that's a shame, because the .260 is well-suited to hunting medium game like deer, antelope, caribou, sheep, goat — anything short of elk and the big bears, really. Coyotes take a lot of killing. Because the latter has a slightly higher ballistic coefficient than the soft point (.457 versus .435), we’ll use the exterior ballistics for it in the table below. For LR pick a high bc heavy for cal sturdy bullet like a 107 smk they open enough to put em down but not much damage. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 13 of 13 Posts. The .260 was initially chambered in the Model 7 rifle followed by the M700. Bad move. Since the parent cartridges were readily available for low cost, the 6.5-08 was often an economical alternative to cartridges such as the 6.5×55mm. But the .260 Remington is better because it fires a much heavier bullet (140-grain vs. 100-grain). In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look at the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243 Winchester. Remington released the .260 Remington in 1997 as a hunting cartridge. You are here: Magazines > GunHunter > Articles. It will shoot the high BC bullets and will run well over 1K rounds if you don't get too carried away with velocities. The 7 Mag could do everything the .264 could do, plus it could deliver a 175-grain bullet, which made it a better choice for game like elk and the larger African antelopes. We are excited about this comparison as both of these cartridges show tremendous versatility in both the hunting and competitive shooting worlds and not a lot of information is out there taking a look at these two cartridges stacked up side by side. Subscribe today to have GunHunter delivered to your home. The 6.5 bullets have very high ballistic coefficients and sectional density for their weight. Easy and inexpensive to load, accurate, excellent barrel life, low recoil, and it will whump coyotes/chucks/etc. It’s far from original, but it is appropriate. The 243 Winchester versus 7mm-08 Remington race is won by the 243, but not by much. The parent case is the .308 (same as the .243), recoil is mild, accuracy is very good, and terminal performance is superior to the smaller .243. There are better cartridges to hit the varmint (pd) fields with but unless you are really going to be running it fast and furious, it will shoot a lot of coyotes. is … 8 twist will allow you to shoot the 140 grain bullets (and 120 and 130). The .260 was rolled out in 1997, making it a fairly recent introduction. After doing some searching around on here I've come to the conclusion that I'm most interested in either a 243, 22-250 or a 260. And it does it with less wind deflection, a tad less drop and less than half the recoil. Shoot flatter, drift less, hit harder? Since you're hunting open country, that may not be as big of a deal for you as it would be for someone in brushy country that will have a harder time finding the coyotes if they run a ways. You are using an out of date browser. By Chuck Hawks. So why three decades later did Remington decide to have another go with a 6.5, especially one that couldn’t match the performance of either the .264 Win or 6.5 Rem magnums? I don’t think I’d use or recommend the .260 Rem for elk, but for deer-size game, east or west, stand hunting or long range, this cartridge delivers. 260 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor are two common cartridges used for rifles.. FMJ's won't reliably kill coyotes. The bottom line: Anyone can shoot a .260 well. Though Art Alphin’s A-Square also had a version, it was the 1997 release of the .260 Remington which was the most popular mating of the 6.5mm bullets and the .308 Winchester case. This cartridge is new to the shooting world, but it has been winning target competitions and bringing down animals at a high rate since its inception.The 6mm Creedmoor is nearly identical to the 6.5 CM which we have reviewed and compared to the .243 Win in a previous article. Well, after getting the Swarovski zeroed in and firing six three-shot groups and discarding the worst, I had a five-group average of .95 inch. Good advice fast light bullets that dont exit are great lile a v max 22 cal BUT BUT for long range they are going to give you a fit with wind drift. The father out you go the more the 7mm-08 out performs the 6.5. It has all the performance and accuracy needed out to ranges most of us shouldn’t be shooting, and it gets it done with recoil levels even once-a-year shooters can handle. ", They are all good cartridges. It was simply more versatile. Again, this cartridge was derived by simply necking down the .308 case to .28 caliber with no other changes. Fearful of being outgunned in a future conflict, European and American military forces scrambled to develop service rifles designed for use with smokeless powder in the late 1800s. While the .260 Rem and similar cartridges like the 6.5-284 Norma, 6.5x47 Lapua, 6.5 Grendel and Hornady’s new 6.5 Creedmore have come to dominate long-range competitive shooting, with hunters it’s been a different story. However, when I recently built my granddaughter a rifle I went with the 260, simply because of it's ability to shoot heavier bullets and felt that would be a more versitle round for her. Both these bullets have the same 6.5 mm diameter in the round, which typically accommodate with the .308 Winchester rifles.The firearm community believes in … I’ve read a number of articles in which the author, believing a particular rifle or cartridge deserves to be more popular than it is, uses Rodney Dangerfield’s line about getting no respect. Kimber is the only other domestic rifle maker that offers it, and among the imports, Sako and Tikka. Tore a big p-dog in half at 705 this year out in wyoming with it. That's not the case with the 308, 7mm-08 and 260 Rem. Ammo was so scarce that even the Remington folks were able to come up with only four boxes of, wouldn’t you know it, 140-grain Core-Lokts. Food for thought. Among the several 6.5s adopted by foreign countries, the 6.5x55 Swedish is perhaps the best known and most popular here, and deservedly so, for it is an excellent cartridge. That’s about 60 percent more recoil. The only down side is the variety (or lack thereof) of … The stouter bullets just won't put the coyotes down as quickly since they lack the shock of fragile bullets. Barrel life, ammo availability, ease of reloading, accuracy in bolt action rifles such as Savage, Remington, Tikka. After doing some searching around on here I've come to the conclusion that I'm most interested in either a 243, 22-250 or a 260. Then, in 1997, Remington tapped the .308 case again to sire the .260 Rem. Pretty sad. The Pro-Series 2000 action borrows heavily from the Model 700 Remington in that it is based on a tubular receiver with a separate washer-type recoil lug sandwiched between a step on the barrel shank and the receiver ring. In 1980, it was Remington’s turn to use the .308 case as the basis for one of its own,  putting its headstamp on the 7mm-08. I had a couple of rifles on test, one being a Steyr ProHunter Mountain rifle and the other a Remington 700 Stainless Steel Mountain rifle. The 1 in 9 will shoot 140's well. I’m not sure why, after witnessing the waning popularity of the .264 Win, Remington in 1966 decided to come out with their own version of a .26 caliber in the form of the 6.5 Rem Magnum. The .260 Remington is well-known within the hunting circles, the 6.5 Creedmoor is basically the new unicorn of the long range precision shooting crowd. It was a different time back then … a time when versatility in a rifle and cartridge was the mantra. You cant have the best of both worlds with one cal / bullet. You could probably do the same with a fast twist .22-250 using VLD's for LR and the 60 grain V-max at calling ranges. I'm shooting a .243AI with an eight twist barrel. Truly, this is a cartridge that deserves more respect than it gets. It was the same for the .45-70, .30-40 Krag and the .30-06. They weigh 2 ounces, so the rifle alone weighed 6 pounds, 3 ounces. Federal got into the game nine years later with its .338 Federal. : There’s no substitute for practice, but some gear items can improve accuracy. With all the interest being shown the 6.5 by competitive shooters, I wanted to reacquaint myself with the caliber and the Remington version specifically, for it’s the most popular and available in a broader choice of production rifles. Considering case capacity/bore only the 260 should win the barrel life race. This makes for a light recoil round that has very good long range ballistics. As for the 243 my wife has had hers for 20 yrs not one factory round has been run through it. The .243 Winchester uses the same 6mm/.243″ bullet size as the 6mm Remington, the .240 Weatherby Magnum, and the 6mm Creedmoor. The .30-06, for example, was venerated as the king of cartridges because it could take on any game anywhere in the world but for rhino, Cape buffalo and elephant. The faster 22's with heavy high bc bullets 90 grain are a whole different creature. I'm still looking for the smallest amount of pelt damage possible, but I need to be able to reach out as much as possible "hunting in wide open country. The recoil energy and recoil velocity figures are taken from various sources including the recoil nomograph in the Handloader's Digest 8th Edition, various online recoil calculators, the Remington Shoot! To check out the test rifle, I mounted a new Swarovski Z3 3-9x36 scope in Leupold rings and bases. All first appeared as a martial cartridge before being offered for sporting use. Until recently, what limited popularity it enjoyed here was the result of the availability of surplus Swedish Mausers. .260 Remington vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: It’s All About Understanding Rifle Twist Rates. The bolt glide was extremely smooth, and there was virtually no lateral play or binding, even when cycled from the shoulder. Medium to slow burning powders seem to provide the best velocities and are often compressed loads. The unfortunate truth is that each of these other cartridges can shoot flatter than the 308 Win. Squeeze it to .243 caliber and you have the .243 Winchester, a cartridge many extol as ideal for young shooters and small-framed, recoil-sensitive shooters. G ... Remington's version of the 243. Although 6.5s have been dominating long-range shooting, hunters still think of the .260 Rem as a kid’s cartridge. It was designed as a highly frangible varmint/predator round, but a lot of velocity-happy hunters used it for deer and antelope, often with poor results, which were widely publicized. The 260 Remington is essentially the old wildcated 6.5-08, a 308 necked down to the .264 bullet. Can two smaller rounds beat their “parent” 308 Winchester? While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. Here was a cartridge that easily outperformed the iconic .270 Win by launching a 140-grain bullet at 3,200 fps and delivered 37 percent more energy at 500 yards than the .270’s 130-grain bullet. Having been given an assignment to review an H-S Precision rifle, I figured I could kill two birds with one stone. Reloading Your Remington 260 Ammo Handloading for the .260 Remington allows for a wide range of powders, keep in mind this is just a small sampling - IMR 4064, 4350, 4895, H414, H380 H4831SC, Reloader 19, 15 and 22 get the ball rolling. The 260 has become very popular in sniper shooting competitions. We've had pretty good luck with that bullet as well. The 250 is a barrel burner but with a fast twist ( 1-7), and the 80 gr a-max not loaded to the max you should be fine. The 7mm-08 has been used in competition out to 1500 yrds. You need to either go with something fragile enough to fragment without exit or stout enough to not blow a large hole upon exit. That's about as close to fur friendly/long range as I've seen so far. There is nothing esoteric about the .260. Anyone wish they would have bought the NX8 4-32x50 over the 2.5-20. Subscribe today to have GunHunter delivered to your home. At the time of testing, the only ammo I had on hand was the 140-grain Core-Lokt load. What are the pluses and minuses of 243 VS 7mm 08 as far as a rifle mainly used for deer and black bears and occasional pest coyotes? This article was published in the November 2009 edition of Buckmasters GunHunter Magazine. One of those is in Remington’s Managed Recoil line, so there’s really just three full-power loads. High BC bullets and "fur friendly" don't go together very well unless you get a stout bullet and figure on the coyotes runnining a ways if you don't hit the CNS or large bones. trust me, Nov 17, 2016. trust me, Nov 17, 2016 #13. The 22's with heavy bullets can get out there and keep recoil down. What fascinated the shooting public even more was the .264’s 100-grain load, which clocked a smokin’ 3,700 fps. And it is for that reason SAAMI specs hold the pressures down to around 47,000 psi in factory ammunition, which translates to 200 fps slower than the same weight bullet out of a .260 Rem (2,550 fps. The 6.5-284 Norma is enjoying something of a renaissance, but despite the cartridge’s many attributes, the PRC does offer some advantages. Your thinking on the TSX is sound though which is what I meant about a heavier constructed bullet. • Can You Buy Shooting Skill? At the rear of the bolt, however, we find that the bolt shroud houses a Model 70 Winchester-type, three-position safety. You would think the chronology would be the other way around, as it was for the .223 Rem first seeing the light of day as the U.S. military’s 5.56x41 before being adopted by Remington as a commercial varmint round. 260 Remington vs 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5×55 Swede: History The story of these cartridges begins in the 1890s with the 6.5×55 Swede. Just four years later in 1962, Remington introduced its 7mm Magnum, and that turned out to be the death knell for the .264. The recoil is a tad more than the .243 but remains in the "mild" category. Its  ultimate forebear is the .308 Win, which was introduced in 1952 and adopted two years later by NATO military forces as the 7.62x61. All but the 243 can retain more energy far downrange. Less than an inch difference in drop and drift gives it the win. There are many instants where people say a .243 is too small and where a .308 is too large. After just four short years of offering the chambering in the Models 600 and 660 Magnum carbines, production was discontinued. JMHO. The 1 in 10 is made more for 100 and 120 bullet weights. … Well, a lot happened in those 30 years to change consumer thinking about the 6.5 caliber, but it’s been primarily with competitive shooters, not hunters.Shooting match-type 138-, 140- or 142-grain VLD bullets like those of Lapua, Berger and Sierra, respectively, all of which have ballistic coefficients of around .60, the .260 Rem can actually match the 1,000-yard performance of the .300 Win Mag loaded with the 190-grain Sierra MatchKing bullet. program or calculated from the formula given in the Lyman Reloading Handbook, 43rd Edition. vs. 2,750). 260 rem twist rate Remington made some runs of 260 rem in 1 in 10 the later ones are all made 1 in 9. Now there were three in the family, but it didn’t end there. And like the 700, the bolt head is comprised of twin-opposed locking lugs, a 360 degree recessed face and plunger-type ejection. I'm still looking for the smallest amount of pelt damage possible, but I need to be able to reach out as much as possible "hunting in wide open country." Even Remington, which currently lists 28 different models of centerfire rifles, offers only one, the Model Seven CDL, in .260. Then, in 1997, Remington tapped the .308 case again to sire the .260 Rem. The entire barreled action is black Teflon coated. Based on the success of the 7mm-08 Remington, .243 Winchester and the enormous popularity of the .308 itself, it seemed that the .260 Remington would easily be … From L: 260 Remington, 243 Win., 308 Win., 30-06. a long ways out there. H-S makes some really neat rifles and is the only semi-production gun maker I know that manufacturers every component, from their 10x cut-rifled stainless steel barrels and actions to the trigger, bottom metal units and their Pro-Series fiberglass stocks hand-laid around an aluminum bedding block. Everyone probably knows but it bears stating that the 243 Win, 260 Rem, 7mm-08 Rem and the 358 Win are all just a 308 Win case necked up or down to various bullet diameters. That was just about the time I was really getting into guns big time.
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